Kent Beck thinks tech has a compassion deficit, but actually more interesting is his view on agile:

Q: ""You signed the Agile Manifesto almost 20 years ago. How do you feel about agile now?"
A: "It’s a devastated wasteland. The life has been sucked out of it. It’s a few religious rituals carried out by people who don’t understand the purpose that those rituals were intended to serve in the first place."


@schaueho Now imagine how it feels to someone who didn't happen to be there when it all started.

@schaueho I agree with Kent. I liked grassroots XP better.

@haitch @schaueho Bingo. Most productive time of my life was when I paired with another programmer for an emergency project. Stayed super-focused and the result was a viable solution in a single day.

@vertigo I've been meaning to get back to the basics in that way at work. I only have to deliver on a project that has been slow-as-molasses to deliver due to endemic process dependency problems, and then I'm going to strongly suggest that we run a little experiment.

A part of an ongoing project took a team of six dragging it for three or four months. My estimate is that two pairs of us could have delivered something better in three weeks. (two, really, with a week to polish)


@vertigo Not that I'm a rush, but pairing we could work two hours in the morning, two hours in the afternoon and still be more productive yielding better results.


@haitch @vertigo The funny thing is that experiments like this are at the heart of agile. Too often it's not clear to people how central flexibility and autonomy are to be successful.

@schaueho @vertigo Of course we can interpret the situation that Kent Beck described (which many more of us have witnessed) as 'insufficient agility', 'agility malpractice', or 'agility misunderstood'.

But the fact of the matter remains that actually existing Agile Development in the real world is nothing like Agile Development in the books.

Most importantly, when people like Ron Jeffries disown the Agile brand (and not XP techniques) we should be paying attention.

@haitch My point here is mostly that the things the agile manifesto was aiming for are in my experience important factors for successful development endeavors. The brand "agile" isn't. @vertigo

@schaueho My point is those same things were already available before Agile was formulated, a lot of it under XP, and both the Agile brand and the Agile religion are unnecessary mistakes people should steer clear of in modern settings.


@schaueho It really is. XP in the early 2000s was thoughtful and exciting and experimental. Now it's a mostly meaningless recruiting checkbox and some mediocre enterprise software packages and a $200k consultant.

Like, I've been in shops that do it well. I have to believe those shops still exist. But just using the name agile sure isn't going to find them.

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