#Discord is a terrible communication platform with all its distractions and malfeatures. I've used it to stay in touch with #lisp programmers that are not on IRC nor on fediverse. But today they've crossed the line - they've shown me an ad, an ad that has obfucaed the chat at that. I've disabled the account and not going to use it anymore. Good ridding I guess.
@jackdaniel I no longer use proprietary or closed platforms to keep in touch with the communities around my interests, no matter how good the information and conversations I may have there are.
@jackdaniel Discord does suck, but I'm pretty sure that "ad" was an April Fools' joke.
@spnw I've seen it today (2nd of April). But even if it was a joke, it is not funny in a context of vc-funded company. It is like oracle joking that they will sue you or google pretending that your account is blocked.
@jackdaniel sorry to hear that. As much as I would have loved an open alternative to discord, I have not yet seen any. The lisp community in discord is also nice, and irc is showing its age.
@simendsjo I always preferred irc to be honest. Less distracting.
@jackdaniel irc requires a bouncer, and I miss images, threads and search. And mute and notifications. A more complete chat platform had a lot of nice features. I feel like irc needs a really big upgrades.
@simendsjo @jackdaniel #XMPP has all those features, and there's a fairly big #Lisp / #Scheme / #CommonLisp channel there - https://xmpp.link/#lisp@conference.a3.pm?join
It might not have everything that #Discord does, but it's vastly better than #IRC. And there's a cost to using #proprietary and #centralized services, which people constantly forget about in chasing convenience and shiny features.
Here's a guide to help you get started.
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html
Sounds like a plan. I've used Jabber before GTalk heyday, and then they've stolen all my contacts. Later I've ran my own server for some time but without many contacts, so I've closed it down.
I'm still waiting for a sufficient slice of time to make a video with creating McCLIM client for both jabber and irc interactively.
@contrapunctus @simendsjo @jackdaniel
for #Jabber.
I use IRC, too, but via an #XMPP gateway, #biboumi.
Some modern chat features are not distracting, but pretty nice and I'm missing them in IRC. Like:
- get all your messages after being offline
- message reactions
- message replies
- multi-line messages
- avatar images
Matter of taste, of course.
@contrapunctus @simendsjo @jackdaniel I took a peek, there seem to be about 80 participants in the XMPP Lisp channel, though nobody is saying much of anything, or answering questions so far.
@davetenny Guess the question was too esoteric even for the (CL) experts in the channel
And yes, it tends to be quiet...until some discussion is sparked and then it's suddenly very active.
I hang out in https://matrix.to/#/#common-lisp:matrix.org and https://matrix.to/#/#family-of-lisp:magdeburg.jetzt The first one is by far more active.
@jackdaniel @reidrac can’t disagree with that.
It’s just a shame that Unix devs have so little sense and taste for good UX : if IRC had a powerful but with a lickable human friendly UI there would be no need for Discord, Slack and their likes… but here we are.