the whole concept of "app" as thought of today is a consequence of free software having been completely obliterated as a cultural concept

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instagram is a service which, due to what we in the industry call "complete bullshit", requires an application also called "instagram" to use it

but every single thing is like that so we just say "instagram is an app" and i can't stand it

@tindall I had no idea of the extent to which this was true.

(you obviously did, I'm clarifying this for others like me reading)

They enabled posting from mobile browsers a few years back, but not from desktop browsers. Just because.

People are so used to being abused that they frame spoofing a mobile browser so that you can disable this anti-feature as "a nifty trick".…

@clacke @tindall I have for a long time been of the opinion that the number of people that understands technology is constant. Back in the 80's the people who understood technology and the people who used technology was roughly the same set. This led to a misbelief that using technology made you understand it.

Turns out that the cause and effect were reversed, and just like how you don't have to be a mechanic to drive a car these days, you don't have to understand technology to use it.

The notion that kids who grew up with a smartphone in their hand would understand technology like a child learns their mother's tongue is a huge, and frankly dangerous, lie that keeps being told even today. The term "digital native" is annoying me.

Just like the people who know how to design cars put things like seatbelts, crash protection, engine temperature warnings, etc into the cars to make them safe to use for people who are not mechanics, it's the duty of tech people to make the products they make safe for the users.

The tech industry is full of drug dealers only interested in peddling their dangerous wares rather than engineers that design safe products for the public's use.

@loke @clacke @tindall
Maybe there's no money in writing good/safe software?
Do most customers care more about security and freedom or features and (apparent) ease of use?
No, these things don't have to be mutually exclusive, but having them all costs money (and especially freedom does the opposite of earning the creator money).

The only solution would be *massive* public funding of free software, possibly tied with demands on security and ease of use. Seems unlikely to happen, TBH.


@Doomed_Daniel @clacke @tindall Indeed. I was pointing out a problem, but sadly I don't have any simple solutions.

As you pointed out, public funding is probably the only way to achieve this. Regulation is also needed. The GDPR is one step forward, but it needs to be enforced and then taken much further.

@loke @clacke @tindall
I agree.
Though regarding GDPR right now my impression is that it's just annoying, with all the cookie "consent" popups everywhere - I don't think the amount of cookies/tracking has been reduced a lot, but people have been trained to just click any kinds of privacy-related popups away, which seems like the opposite of the (allegedly) intended goal.

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