**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 11, 2018, 18:35

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 11, 2018, 18:35

Andrew Miloradovsky @amiloradovsky

Jun 11, 2018, 18:35

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So `eliom-distillery` isn't usable on #NixOS ATM:
```
Fatal error: exception Fl_package_base.No_such_package("eliom.templates", "")
```
Not unexpected.

Generally, #OPAM and #Nix aren't playing well, alas.

#Eliom #Ocsigen

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · 2018-06-12T19:18:15Z

Andrew Miloradovsky @amiloradovsky

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Current status: thinking about what's wrong with Ocsigen Server in #NixOS.
Just checked #Guix's support for the #Ocsigen stuff, and it seems even worse than #Nix's (no #Eliom, versions are older, etc.).
Seems like I'll have to set up an #Arch installation in #Qemu or something, just for this venture. — The work on Nix/Guix will follow, but later: it's not a priority ATM.

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**Orbifx ~ Ecological Jedi** @orbifx@mstdn.io · Jun 13, 2018, 08:28

**Orbifx ~ Ecological Jedi** @orbifx@mstdn.io · Jun 13, 2018, 08:28

Jun 13, 2018, 08:28

Orbifx ~ Ecological Jedi @orbifx@mstdn.io

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@amiloradovsky
why not use OPAM?

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 13, 2018, 10:34

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 13, 2018, 10:34

Jun 13, 2018, 10:34

Andrew Miloradovsky @amiloradovsky

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@orbifx
It doesn't work either. Throwing at me some equally obscure error messages (#TyXML and/or #LWT couldn't be built, and the outputs don't tell much).
I'll try again today, and maybe isolate some specific issues…

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 19, 2018, 19:14

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 19, 2018, 19:14

Jun 19, 2018, 19:14

Andrew Miloradovsky @amiloradovsky

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#OPAM, #LWT & #TyXML are building fine in #Guix (after a non-obvious trick though), but neither #Eliom nor #Ocsigen Server are. While #Arch, as a distro, is just broken as fuck. — I believe I still have better chances with the declarative package managers…

Although the only thing I'm sure about now, is that complexity of the whole is much more than the sum of complexities of the parts…

**Ayo** @ayo@niu.moe · Jun 20, 2018, 04:27

**Ayo** @ayo@niu.moe · Jun 20, 2018, 04:27

Jun 20, 2018, 04:27

Ayo @ayo@niu.moe

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@amiloradovsky It's not possible to install OCaml & OPAM from the Arch packages, and then the rest with OPAM? :blobunsure:

I've played with Ocsigen a year ago, and certainly don't remember it being such a pain to install (but then, I'm on Gentoo).

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 20, 2018, 05:07

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 20, 2018, 05:07

Jun 20, 2018, 05:07

Andrew Miloradovsky @amiloradovsky

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@ayo
#Ocsigen is a pain to install on Nix/Guix. While Arch is just a pain per se — it is strictly less predictable than /dev/random…
Gentoo? — Hmm… it's been a long time, but maybe I should try this too.

**Ayo** @ayo@niu.moe · Jun 20, 2018, 05:11

**Ayo** @ayo@niu.moe · Jun 20, 2018, 05:11

Jun 20, 2018, 05:11

Ayo @ayo@niu.moe

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@amiloradovsky Not like Gentoo is all that predictable. 🙄 It seems Arch has an OPAM package, so if that works, I'd think that installing Ocsigen on Arch that way shouldn't be a problem.

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 20, 2018, 05:39

**Andrew Miloradovsky** @amiloradovsky · Jun 20, 2018, 05:39

Jun 20, 2018, 05:39

Andrew Miloradovsky @amiloradovsky

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@ayo
I've been recommended to simply use Arch as the platform. But the Arch "release" downloaded from the site makes me troubleshoot GRUB booting… (can't boot due to an UUID issues). — I don't want to deal with *these* problems! And, from my past experience, I know there is much more.