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Apparently we aren't Fash enough for @protonprivacy

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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@vmstan @protonprivacy honest question: what’s a good alternative to proton? Self hosting is not really a valid option (did that for years, it’s just a nightmare as you’re by default treated as a spammer).

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@NicolasRinaudo

What's important for you? Only encryption? A full suite of tools like Drive, Calendar, Pass etc? Support any business to compete with US-BigTech?

If everything you need is a simple e-mail, look for Tuta or Posteo.net. Tuta is the direct competitor of Proton.

I use Posteo and Proton. I keep a Gmail address for spam. I have nothing against Tuta, it's just that the other arrived first. :)

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@veroandi @NicolasRinaudo Do you know a better full suite alternative? I want to cut Google/Apple Drive, mail and calender, 1 Password etc. and without scattering things too much.

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@christianschwaegerl @NicolasRinaudo

I don't know any pro-privacy company that offers, today, a full suite with password manager and VPN as Proton does, only the classic suite (email/calendar/drive/office/etc).

For a classic suite, I'm sure there are many options, but I'll let what I know without thinking too much:

Murena.io from France:
murena.com/workspace/

Infomaniak from Switzerland:
infomaniak.com/fr/ksuite

You can create a free account to test their services before adopting it :)

@christianschwaegerl @veroandi @infomaniak_network except maybe for the bit about IA which might be fair enough, but has also turned into a bit of a red-flag for me :)

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@NicolasRinaudo @veroandi @infomaniak_network Would be good to learn from @infomaniak @ma_marguerat
whether that‘s a small walled in-house AI assistant or a ChatGPT embed.

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@veroandi @NicolasRinaudo @infomaniak_network @infomaniak @ma_marguerat

so instead of too good to be true it's "good and true"? Any users here with experience? #infomaniak

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@christianschwaegerl @veroandi @NicolasRinaudo @infomaniak_network @infomaniak @ma_marguerat

I'm wondering the same thing and am importing some data. Everything is working really well so far. Maybe a little slower sometimes, but I can deal with that.